goman87 Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 So, today we had to go to the computer lab for 3rd. Someone had previously installed the Yahoo Toolbar on the comp i was on, so I clicked the Anti-Spyware button, I updated and everything, scanned it, this is what came up... ClikEY!Now i noticed it did not scan a whole lot, probly because the restrictions are HIGH! on our comps... Im just wondering what they would find if they did a FULL server scan... I remember last year, almost every comp i went on had some type of visible spyware.Any ideas of what I recommend? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir_Siddy Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 try to find out who the IT guy is at your school. Try to get your school to install microsft anti-spyware on those computers. I hate those restrictions we cant even right click anymore at my school. Some kid was able to bypass a lot of filters last years and now those computers are next to useless Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goman87 Posted December 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 try to find out who the IT guy is at your school. Try to get your school to install microsft anti-spyware on those computers. I hate those restrictions we cant even right click anymore at my school. Some kid was able to bypass a lot of filters last years and now those computers are next to uselessYeah, i'll check into that. We can't right-click either! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blim Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Goman, I clicked your link and got a....photobucket home page thing--no pictures on my end, anyways... At the kid's college, the computers are set up in a way that when they are turned off, everything except the operating system is erased--kind of a "new install" every morning. This supposably (according to Son) gets rid of any cooties downloaded during the day (he *cough* opens his email attachements and probably visits unscrupulous sites *cough* at school because of this feature). I have no idea how it works, but maybe the IT guys at the school know.Liz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Parrotgeek7 Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Goman, I clicked your link and got a....photobucket home page thing--no pictures on my end, anyways... At the kid's college, the computers are set up in a way that when they are turned off, everything except the operating system is erased--kind of a "new install" every morning. This supposably (according to Son) gets rid of any cooties downloaded during the day (he *cough* opens his email attachements and probably visits unscrupulous sites *cough* at school because of this feature). I have no idea how it works, but maybe the IT guys at the school know.LizThat software is called the Shared computer Management Toolkit and is available free from MSFT. It resets everything back to a base point whenever the computer is rebooted. We use it on many public computers and it does work quite well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDoors Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 From what I can see of the scan it isn't nearly as bad as what I suspect is on most systems out there. And when you consider the users have no vested interest in the security of the system ... it's not bad AT ALL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fubz Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 last year i scanned one of the computers with ad aware and i found 500 entries before i had to stop it because i didn't want to tun out of time. And it wasnt even 20% done.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goman87 Posted December 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 From what I can see of the scan it isn't nearly as bad as what I suspect is on most systems out there. And when you consider the users have no vested interest in the security of the system ... it's not bad AT ALL.Yeah, they must have done a massive clean out after last year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
parkgoons Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 also another program that erases everything but the OS is deep freeze, I put it on all of my workstations and just save to my server drives. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xxkbxx Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 I do a lot of work with computers at school (embarassingly enough computer editor on yearbook staff) and all of our school issued computers suck because of restrictions! No right clicking, can't do anything with control panel, can't do anything i need to from time to time! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IEatHardDrives Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 School should not have computers they do not know how to maintain them I was hired to work on the schools computers a three month job I did a full system scan got 73,000 spyware programs off cleaned 96 viruses. I replaced 75 of the schools 150 computers CD-Rom Drives the kids had stuck gum in it like 100 of the mic the ball was missing half the computer had porn on them like those computers where like not even a year old after I fixed them they ran fine every year I go work on them the state basically rebuys 150 computer every year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xxkbxx Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 It really is a shame Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IEatHardDrives Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Dam right its a shame we pay taxes to buy the computers to help the students but the students destroy them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DucoNihilum Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 No deepfreeze? All educational system computers around here have DeepFreeze installed. Makes it so you cant make any changes to the system, and makes it harder for spyware to be installed. Well, not really... There was still alot of junk on our computers, and you couldnt remove it without a deepfreeze password. Ironic, eh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blim Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 Unfortunately, the biggest problem with computer labs and classes at the High School level is that the students know more than the teachers! Not really the teacher's fault, as technology has advanced so quickly since most of them started teaching.Geeky Nephew's HS teacher quickly realized that Nephew knew more than the teacher, and desigated him a "student assistant" and sought his input for lesson plans and during lectures. Smart teacher and what a ego booster for a kid. In fact, he took up computer science in college, probably due to that encouragement.I think it would be great if students were allowed much more input in the computer classes--make them more of a "discussion group" instead of a teacher/student arrangement, or have the students teach a lesson or two. A good teacher would realize his/her students were more advanced and have them teach eachother and basically supervise.And maybe the students would be more respectful to the equipment!Liz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IEatHardDrives Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Well the problem when I was in school the teacher thought she was smarter than the students she thought HTML was a hacker tool, java was a virus flash was porn lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xxkbxx Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 It's never the kids who know anything about computers (most of the time) who are messing them up, it's the idiots who just figured out you can use google images to see some porn pics Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goman87 Posted December 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Well the problem when I was in school the teacher thought she was smarter than the students she thought HTML was a hacker tool, java was a virus flash was porn lol.Wow, that's crazy for someone to think that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTerrorist_75 Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 To me it always seems that the students think they know more and try to bypass the security therefore causing problems. If the kids would stop messing with the school computers and use them correctly then there wouldn't be concerns about crrapware on them. Many kids have no respect for what is not theirs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xxkbxx Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 To me it always seems that the students think they know more and try to bypass the security therefore causing problems. If the kids would stop messing with the school computers and use them correctly then there wouldn't be concerns about crrapware on them. Many kids have no respect for what is not theirs.Can agree A LOT! We had a girl screw around with security restrictions on XP on classroom computers where it messed up the network logins. Our computer "expert" at school refuses to reinstall Windows to fix it where multiple users can log on so there's one login (the teachers) with a crap load of files strewn around Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IEatHardDrives Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 When I was in school we got new computer a week later students broke in the school a broke 60 computer they took baseball bats to them that was the end of our computer lap if we did reports we used books and typewriters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xxkbxx Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 When I was in school we got new computer a week later students broke in the school a broke 60 computer they took baseball bats to them that was the end of our computer lap if we did reports we used books and typewriters.AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! THAT'S SO STUPID, PEOPLE LIKE THAT NEED TO DIE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IEatHardDrives Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Its not fun typing a 50 page book report on a typewriter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goman87 Posted December 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Its not fun typing a 50 page book report on a typewriter.Wow... really?!?!!?!?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 (edited) Ah yes. I can relate. Just about EVERY PC at my school has the vundo trojan on it. One day while working on one, I got really annoyed by it, so I thought I'd remove it. Besides the fact that the software wouldn't let me do anything (yet the spyware still got in) I got scolded by the teacher. Oh well, their loss. And yes, if people would quit going to that "You are an idiot" flash and other crap sites like that, schools wouldn't have this issue.Matt Edited December 4, 2005 by Matt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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