Simple Ms Works Suite Question

[blim]

Planning on buying Daughter an idiot box for her college apartment (groan).

We bought Microsoft Works Suite 2003 (Microsoft Word) for our home computer--can we install it on her computer, too, or did MS get greedy with Works Suite like they did with XP (one for each computer)?

Thanks a bunch!

Liz

[Martint]

..Just get OpenOffice.

[thesidekickcat]

Hi Liz,

Well I just wasted a few minutes at the non-user-friendly Microsoft site looking, yes using their search too, for the answer for you. Zilch, sorry!!! I never can find anything over there though, so maybe someone else can for you.

Do you by chance still have the box, or manual for it? Maybe it will tell you, or it might be listed somewhere in the computer it's on if the license allows more than one computer, or go look at a box at the store?

But I am guessing it wont allow it. You know Bill needs to pay for all that Microsoft campus and the employees salaries etc, and of course the mortgage on that huge mansion, so they are not to generous on letting people freely use the products they buy.

So next step would be to watch for sales for it.

Also have daughter look into student discounts (at schools and in stores with student id) for products from computer, to software. I have seen Office even deeply discounted for students with proper id. So watch Sunday ads for the computer stores sales. Good luck.

Hubby says it is bedtime, so see you later.

Oh wind storms coming tomorrow, and later this week, so will be unplugged for the duration.

Pat.

God bless everyone.

[DarkestDream]

It depend on the license, MS always greedy on license.

Sixpacgenuis is correct, just get your daugther a OpenOffice.org, you will save a lot of money

[MrBill]

You can probably install it with no problems. Updates will probably not work.

Try it. You can always remove it.

CLICK for a FREE download of Open Office.

[screi]

you might check that the new machine comes pre-installed with works...just about all the machines i've bought have come with it...

not sure what the answer is about the license you have for the works suite you bought...most are single user/machine though...

[Aluvus]

The license is for one system. But I don't think it has any activation.

If she's in college, she can probably get Office (which beats the pants off of Works) cheap or free through the school. The Office Students and Teachers Edition is $150 or less. As already mentioned, OpenOffice is always free.

Allowing one computer per license is not "greedy". It's very normal.

Edited December 28, 2005 by Aluvus

[iccaros]

Planning on buying Daughter an idiot box for her college apartment (groan).

We bought Microsoft Works Suite 2003 (Microsoft Word) for our home computer--can we install it on her computer, too, or did MS get greedy with Works Suite like they did with XP (one for each computer)?

Thanks a bunch!

Liz

I'll break it down so that others may also understand.. I have read post and answers from you before and I know that you know what you are doing..

you need a license for each product.. this would apply to your question.. you have a license for windows for two computers but you only have works for one.. so you can only use it on one computer

in reallity its simple... there is no longer in any MS license the right to install on more than one system for any software...

it used to be in the old days that if you had MS offic, you could install it at home and at work as long as you could nto use both at the same time (or any one else)

well that lead to accadental use at the same time.. and sharing of software (why just me .. if I use it on odd days and my friend uses it on even days why can se both install it on each others systems?)

here is the agreement you agreeded to when you opened the box..

EULA

1. GRANT OF LICENSE. Microsoft grants you the following rights provided that you comply with all terms and

conditions of this EULA:

1.1 Installation and use. You may:

(a) install and use a copy of the Software on one personal computer or other device; and

( install an additional copy of the Software on a second, portable device for the exclusive use of the primary

user of the first copy of the Software.

you can install on one computer and one handheld or laptop if you are the only user of the said software. this does not give any rightes to a install on a second computer used by someone else, notice the two key words... portable device.... and exclusive use

1.5 License Grant for Media Elements. The Software may include certain photographs, clip art, shapes, animations,

sounds, music and video clips that are identified in the Software for your use (together "Media Elements"). You may

copy and modify the Media Elements, and license, display and distribute them, along with your modifications as part of

your software products and services, including your web sites, but you are not licensed to do any of the following:

• You may not sell, license or distribute copies of the Media Elements by themselves or as part of any

collection, product or service if the primary value of the product or service is in the Media Elements.

• You may not grant customers of your product or service any rights to license or distribute the Media

Elements.

• You may not license or distribute any of the Media Elements that include representations of

identifiable individuals, governments, logos, initials, emblems, trademarks, or entities for any commercial purposes or

to express or imply any endorsement or association with any product, service, entity, or activity.

• You may not create obscene or scandalous works, as defined by federal law at the time the work is

created, using the Media Elements.

In addition, you must (a) indemnify and defend Microsoft from and against any claims or lawsuits, including attorneys'

fees that arise from or result from the licensing, use or distribution of Media Elements as modified by you, and (

include a valid copyright notice on your products and services that include the Media Elements.

you can use clip art and music/video and fonts for your products.. unless you are selling this poduct, or you are making offencive material (by MS rules)

also you promised ot help defend MS in court if they get sued from your use of any element (IE a person who draws clip art sees your flyer and sues MS for stealing it from them, sine you brought it up.. help pay for the lawyer..)

RESERVATION OF RIGHTS AND OWNERSHIP. Microsoft reserves all rights not expressly granted to you

in this EULA. The Software is protected by copyright and other intellectual property laws and treaties. Microsoft or its

suppliers own the title, copyright, and other intellectual property rights in the Software. The Software is licensed, not

sold. This EULA does not grant you any rights to trademarks or service marks of Microsoft.

if they did not say you can do it ..you can't

SOFTWARE TRANSFER. Internal. You may transfer your copy of the Software to a different device. After

the transfer, you must completely remove the Software from the former device. Transfer to Third Party. If you are the

person who initially licensed the Software, you may make a one-time permanent transfer of this EULA, Software and

Certificate of Authenticity (if applicable) to another end user, provided that you do not retain any copies of the

Software. This transfer must include all of the Software (including all component parts, the media and printed materials,

any upgrades, this EULA, and, if applicable, the Certificate of Authenticity). The transfer may not be an indirect

transfer, such as a consignment. Prior to the transfer, the end user receiving the Software must agree to all the EULA

terms.

notice the one person part..meaning .. you can not buy this software used and resell it..

here is the link to the EULA for Word (part of works) http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/2...client_eula.pdf

[jimras]

I believe that the 2003 software did NOT require activation.

I would hold off on buying anytning untill she gets to college because

as was mentioned earlier, she will be able to get M$ Office at a really

good price.

Most colleges want all the students to all be using the same software and

the colleges have multiple site liscences and make the programs available

at a reasonable rate.

Open office is a good suite and it's free. You could get and install it for now till she gets there.

[blim]

Thank you all so much!

But Jim hit the nail on the head--the college might require a particular gadget for all it's students (and she is majoring in Journalism, lots of writing) That's something I never even thought of.

Be best to wait and see what the Professors say--they might not want the students to use Word.

*Oh, the student version is usually under $50 if I remember right.

Thanks again,

Liz

[Pierce]

IF you really need Microsoft Works, just pm me, i have a copy that came with my laptop and never installed it. Ill be happy to post it to you for absoultly nothing just to get rid of it.

Its a good point that she might need specialist software, but i would think thats only for the publishing modual and will probably spend her time using ms word, or works for writing essays and 99% of the content for her course.

Pierce

[bozodog]

Well, how nice is that, Pierce? Of course a needy new college gal would love a gift of that software.

Remember, not only the college uses it. But just about every business out there. (read the help wanted classifieds) Although "open office" is a fine product, and can do most everything Word does. I has a different interface, making it almost useless on a resume.

[blim]

Thank you, Pierce! I'll let you know when she finds out for sure what she'll be required to use NOW, in the meantime, if you do have an opportunity to give it away, go ahead, I certainly will understand

Thanks again

Liz

[Pierce]

Eh dont worry about it, its not that urgent to give it away. Bozodog has a good point too, the ability to use all the different processors is good, Office, Works and Openoffice knowlage is great and lets employers be flexable.

Pierce

[rhema7]

MS Office 2003 student & teacher edition would be the way to go it is cheaper and allows you to install on 3 machines.

Top 10 Reasons to Upgrade to Office Student and Teacher Edition 2003

Microsoft Office Student and Teacher Edition 2003 gives students, teachers, and families the most used Microsoft Office programs at a special price. Here are the top 10 reasons to upgrade to Office Student and Teacher Edition 2003.

1. Take advantage of the best price for home users.

Qualified students and teachers can obtain a set of the four core Microsoft Office programs at the discounted price of $149 US. Note Prices listed are in U.S. dollars and are estimated retail prices only. Retail prices may vary.

2. Use software for the whole family.

Install Office Student and Teacher Edition 2003 on up to three computers in your home without having to buy extra licenses. All household members are now also licensed to use it. Get software for the entire family and save money.

3. Create, move, and edit files with confidence.

Create Office 2003 Editions files at home or school and then work with them on computers running other versions of Office. You don't have to convert or reformat your files, or recreate your work. Also view and make changes to your files on different computers.

4. Research school reports more easily.

Access dictionaries, thesauri, encyclopedias, Web searches, online research sites, and proprietary company information all from within Microsoft Office Excel 2003, Microsoft Office Outlook® 2003, Microsoft Office PowerPoint® 2003, and Microsoft Office Word 2003 using the new Research task pane.

5. Share your presentations and present anywhere.

Use Package for CD in PowerPoint 2003 to make your presentations more portable by copying them onto a CD, which can be carried easily between home and school. Include the free PowerPoint Viewer on the CD and you can distribute presentations to individuals who don't use Microsoft PowerPoint or present from any PC even without Office.

6. Help increase your family's security and privacy while reducing junk e-mail messages and viruses.

Increased security measures in Outlook 2003—such as blocking incoming messages that may contain viruses, blocking Hypertext Markup Language (HTML) images, and improved rules to reduce junk e-mail messages—can help reduce the time you spend managing e-mail messages. Learn more about how to prevent junk e-mail messages.

7. Recover files and retrieve e-mail messages quickly and easily.

File recovery can help you retrieve your files quickly after service interruptions without recreating or reformatting files. Also, on slow e-mail connections, Outlook 2003 downloads subject information first so you can quickly identify and read more urgent messages.

8. Manage e-mail overload.

• Outlook 2003 provides powerful tools to manage your Inbox.

• Receive e-mail notification announcements to be informed immediately of new e-mail messages—no matter what program you're working in.

• Display twice as much content and reduce the need to scroll to read long messages with the improved Reading Pane.

• Arrange your Inbox by conversation to group and see all e-mails on a particular topic.

• Use Quick Flags to prioritize and keep track of e-mails with action items.

• Save your search results as Search folders for quick access to e-mails—regardless of the folder where they're stored.

9. Find resources for school, class planning, and personal tasks.

Use tools on Office Online to access clip art, reference information, study tips, and hundreds of templates for personal tasks or student reports, research papers, and other files commonly used at schools.

10. Improve your skills in a competitive job market.

Expand your skills with online training and in-product Help from Office Online. You and your family will be using and learning the latest versions of the world's leading productivity applications.

From: http://www.microsoft.com/office/editions/p...nts/topten.mspx

Liz this is where I buy most of my software you qualify if you have kids in school (K-college) or are a teacher (my wife is).

Academicsupertore.com

pssst! check out the graphics and web design software.

Preston

[Pierce]

And you can do all that and better in openoffice.

Pierce

[DarkestDream]

OpenOffice and MS is similiar, OO.o have a ability to save the format as .doc file (which it a standard MS Word format) and other MS office format. when i open up with MS by using OO.o format, it open fine without a problem.

All OpenOffice have the almost the same interface as MS Office but some feature will be lacked. those feature not in OpenOffice tend not to be use a lot. so it most used feature in OpenOffice

[rhema7]

And you can do all that and better in openoffice.

Pierce

I agree a little I believe you can be just as effiecent with Open Office. For the average user there will be no difference. I have templates and APA style plugins for my wife to use in school that do not work with OpenOffice so I cannot get rid of M$ Office as of yet. I should have added a disclaimer to my previous post to state that it was not necessarily my oppinion. I think out of all that post it was just to point out that it could be installed on more than one machine. I use Office 2000 Professional because it was given to me as a gift years ago so I will continue to use it though I have OO.o installed on both machines. My point is I would not say better but just as good from a performance standpoint. If I did not have M$ office now I would not purchase it I would just use OO.o and be happy.

Preston

Edited December 31, 2005 by rhema7

[Aluvus]

And you can do all that and better in openoffice.

Pierce

"Better" is extremely subjective.

I can get both for free, and I use Office. Open Office has never offered any compelling reason for me to switch away from the suite that everyone on my campus uses.

[blim]

Digging up an oldie to post some results! Daughter has Word on her new idiot box. Unbeknowenst to me, her boyfriend's parents bought MSOffice for Students and Teachers when they got their idiot box, which is licensed for 3 computers. One copy went to them, one copy went to Boyfriend's new computer and they gave the remaining copy to Kate! Sooo, those kids had it all figured out without me!

I did give her the info on Open Office, she was already familiar with it and guess what? She likes that, too! She didn't install it yet (as far as I know, anyways) but for future machines, I'm betting she'll skip the expensive MS products.

Thank you all so much for all the great info, and Pierce, do feel free to give that disk away, Kate is "set"! What a generous offer! Thank you!

I sure do appreciate you folks!

Liz

Edited January 15, 2006 by blim

[sethook]

Digging up an oldie to post some results! Daughter has Word on her new idiot box. Unbeknowenst to me, her boyfriend's parents bought MSOffice for Students and Teachers when they got their idiot box, which is licensed for 3 computers. One copy went to them, one copy went to Boyfriend's new computer and they gave the remaining copy to Kate! Sooo, those kids had it all figured out without me!

I did give her the info on Open Office, she was already familiar with it and guess what? She likes that, too! She didn't install it yet (as far as I know, anyways) but for future machines, I'm betting she'll skip the expensive MS products.

Thank you all so much for all the great info, and Pierce, do feel free to give that disk away, Kate is "set"! What a generous offer! Thank you!

I sure do appreciate you folks!

Liz

Liz, I just sent you an email before seeing this post. Guess you can disregard.....

[blim]

I would NEVER disregard any advice from you, Sethook! Thank you! By the way, that is a great link. Hope you don't mind, I'm going to post that on the 'on the web' section here.

Liz