Dragon Posted February 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 well it seems the problem is fixed what ever it might have been, I now am on Ubuntu.just in case here is the lsmod from it.Module Size Used byipv6 217408 6rfcomm 34972 0l2cap 22404 5 rfcommbluetooth 43012 4 rfcomm,l2capcpufreq_userspace 4444 0cpufreq_stats 5124 0freq_table 4484 1 cpufreq_statscpufreq_powersave 1920 0cpufreq_ondemand 5916 0cpufreq_conservative 6820 0video 16004 0tc1100_wmi 6916 0sony_acpi 5516 0pcc_acpi 11392 0hotkey 9508 0dev_acpi 11396 0i2c_acpi_ec 5760 0button 6672 0battery 9604 0container 4608 0ac 4996 0joydev 9280 0analog 10528 0floppy 52692 0pcspkr 3652 0rtc 11832 0usblp 11776 0snd_seq_dummy 3844 0snd_seq_oss 29440 0snd_seq_midi 8608 0snd_seq_midi_event 6656 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midisnd_seq 44688 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_eventsnd_via82xx 25792 1gameport 14472 2 analog,snd_via82xxsnd_ac97_codec 72188 1 snd_via82xxsnd_pcm_oss 46368 0snd_mixer_oss 16128 1 snd_pcm_osssnd_pcm 78344 3 snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_osssnd_timer 21764 2 snd_seq,snd_pcmsnd_page_alloc 10120 2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcmsnd_mpu401_uart 6784 1 snd_via82xxsnd_rawmidi 22816 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_mpu401_uartsnd_seq_device 8204 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq,snd_rawmidisnd 48644 13 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_devicesoundcore 9184 1 sndi2c_viapro 7696 0i2c_core 19728 2 i2c_acpi_ec,i2c_viaproshpchp 80612 0pci_hotplug 24628 1 shpchpvia_agp 9472 1agpgart 32328 1 via_agpdm_mod 50364 1tsdev 7616 0evdev 9088 0psmouse 26116 0mousedev 10912 1parport_pc 31812 1lp 11460 0parport 32072 2 parport_pc,lpmd 40656 0ext3 115976 1jbd 48536 1 ext3thermal 13192 0processor 23100 1 thermalfan 4740 0usbhid 30688 0via_rhine 20356 0mii 5248 1 via_rhineehci_hcd 29448 0uhci_hcd 28048 0usbcore 104188 5 usblp,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcdide_cd 36996 0cdrom 33952 1 ide_cdide_disk 16128 4ide_generic 1664 0via82cxxx 12188 1ide_core 125268 4 ide_cd,ide_disk,ide_generic,via82cxxxsata_via 8836 0libata 47876 1 sata_viascsi_mod 124872 1 libataunix 24624 632vesafb 8088 0capability 5000 0commoncap 6784 1 capabilityvga16fb 12232 1vgastate 8320 1 vga16fbsoftcursor 2432 2 vesafb,vga16fbcfbimgblt 2944 2 vesafb,vga16fbcfbfillrect 3840 2 vesafb,vga16fbcfbcopyarea 4480 2 vesafb,vga16fbfbcon 34176 72tileblit 2560 1 fbconfont 8448 1 fbconbitblit 5248 1 fbconit was obviously something on their end that was stopping me from getting online. since now I am online after switching to dhcp on Ubuntu. I will have to call them to find out. Who knows maybe DSL fixed it. I'll update you after I have talked to them, can't call for another 20-30 minutes.Now if I could just get my optical mouse working in Gnome Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon Posted February 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 I wonder, since DSL is debian based if I could use the mousedev module to fix that issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iccaros Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 as for the mouse ..can you ls /dev/inputcd /dev/inputlshave the new mouse pluged in..can look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf and search for mouse.. se what device it is pointing at..note you can search in vi by being in edit mode (it esc key) and using the / Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon Posted February 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) like I said before it's all greek to me, maybe this will make sense to ya.Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Configured Mouse" Driver "mouse" Option "CorePointer" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"EndSectionI will try the other option after I get through updating the OS.I'm currently using my ball mouse instead of the optical, would that be better done in terminal mode? Edited February 28, 2006 by Dragon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon Posted February 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 well I tried the ls /dev/input as you posted. didnt' work. I still have no mouse usage. for some reason it just doesn't like my optical mouse. It worked fine in DSL. and my optical mouse used to work when I had the previous version (hoary) installed. but now it doesn't, I'll wander around the ubuntu forums and see if I can find any answers. I know it is getting flooded with this issue. However, so far everyone I have seen complaining about it uses a USB mouse instead of a PS2 mouse. go figure.Also I called the phone company about the previous problem. appearantly the way it sounds DSL kicked the dhcp server into action so it allowed Ubuntu to hook up. not sure what exactly was the problem but they didn't do anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hitest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 well Hitest that would work except I don't have any internet connectivity, which is why I started this thread. therefore I can not get it from synaptic. Unlike Mandriva, ubuntu doesn't give you everything on disk. it only installs base items and then you download the rest from their repos.Right.......sorry.......................hitest turns red and bursts into flames. Sheesh, I did read that you had connectivity problems as well......dang. (bangs head into keyboard)Yes, I did know that Ubuntu only does a base install, I've run it before.........good luck with this , Dragon. It's too bad that you couldn't use another box to download the utilty that you need, if that's even possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iccaros Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 well I tried the ls /dev/input as you posted. didnt' work. I still have no mouse usage. for some reason it just doesn't like my optical mouse. It worked fine in DSL. and my optical mouse used to work when I had the previous version (hoary) installed. but now it doesn't, I'll wander around the ubuntu forums and see if I can find any answers. I know it is getting flooded with this issue. However, so far everyone I have seen complaining about it uses a USB mouse instead of a PS2 mouse. go figure.Also I called the phone company about the previous problem. appearantly the way it sounds DSL kicked the dhcp server into action so it allowed Ubuntu to hook up. not sure what exactly was the problem but they didn't do anything.I'll try to translate greek all devices are stored under /devmice are under /dev/inputwhat I was tring ot say, not to well, is look under /dev/inputand try commenting out Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"# is for commenthope this helps..cd /dev/inputlsand check theat you have a /dev/input/mice like it says in your xorg file Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon Posted March 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 ok, I understand that a little better thanks I will try it with commenting out Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"I know when I did the ls /dev/input it did show /dev/input/mice. now for grins and giggles i decided to do a little exploring. so using nautilus I looked in /dev/input and found the following Mice and mouse0.dunno if that helps any or not. as I was searching around the ubuntu forums, what I have gathered this is a issue that is possibly a bug with the 2.6 Kernel. I have a feeling that it's not Kernel related tho. just one of those gut instincts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon Posted March 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Ok, well I rehooked my optical mouse up after commenting out the option in /etc/X11/xorg.confdidn't do anything. when I move my mouse the optic light goes out. now I can plug my ball mouse in and it still works. Any other ideas that might help??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon Posted March 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 ok I did a dmesg and was surprise with what I found in it.[4294715.168000] input: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse on isa0060/serio1before I ran the dmesg, I replaced my optical mouse with the ball mouse, and here is the line from when that was done.[4295107.425000] input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse on isa0060/serio1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
naraku9333 Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Ok, well I rehooked my optical mouse up after commenting out the option in /etc/X11/xorg.confdidn't do anything. when I move my mouse the optic light goes out. now I can plug my ball mouse in and it still works. Any other ideas that might help???Does the mouse work properly on another system? The optical beam going out is puzzling, could be faulty hardware. I would try all the different devices under /dev/input as well as /dev/mouse and /dev/psaux if they exist, I would also try Option "Protocol" "auto" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jcl Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 (edited) Try running$ cat /dev/input/miceand wiggling the mouse. Control-C to kill it. If you get a screenful of garbage at least you'll know it's working.Edit: That command might require a sudo.Edit: Garbage and beeping Edited March 1, 2006 by jcl Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iccaros Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 (edited) try this..replace /dev/input/mice in xorg.conf with /dev/input/mouse0*note this may not do anything if mice is a softlink (think shortcut but at the file system level) to mouse0** do jcl's sugestion also..out put should look something like this cat /dev/input/mice▒ÿ▒ÿ▒ÿ▒ü▒÷▒÷▒õ▒ó▒ò▒ó▒ð▒ó▒ò▒ó▒õ▒÷▒ù▒ü▒ý▒þ (ÿ(ÿ8üÿ▒ô▒ñ▒ê▒ë▒ÃÂ▒ò▒ú(( ÿ( þ(þ(þ(ý(þ(ü( ý(ý(ÿ(ÿ8þÿ8úÿ▒ù▒ù▒ø▒ú▒(þ(þ(þ(ý(ÿ(þ8þþ8þÿ▒þ▒ÿ8ýþ8ùÿ8ùþ8øÿ▒ø▒÷▒ú▒ü▒ÿ ▒þ▒ü▒÷▒÷▒ÿ8ÿÿ▒þ▒ü▒ü▒ý▒ü▒ý▒þ▒ÿ▒ÿ Edited March 1, 2006 by iccaros Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon Posted March 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Ok, well I rehooked my optical mouse up after commenting out the option in /etc/X11/xorg.confdidn't do anything. when I move my mouse the optic light goes out. now I can plug my ball mouse in and it still works. Any other ideas that might help???Does the mouse work properly on another system? The optical beam going out is puzzling, could be faulty hardware. I would try all the different devices under /dev/input as well as /dev/mouse and /dev/psaux if they exist, I would also try Option "Protocol" "auto"yes, I'm using it right now on Windows. no issues. The only time it doesn't work is with Linux. This is a new GE optical mouse. Been using the old ball mouse for the last 7 or 8 months, but got tired of having to continuously clean that stupid things ball, and rollers./dev/psaux doesn't exist in my dev file.try this..replace /dev/input/mice in xorg.conf with /dev/input/mouse0 I'll try that and jcl's suggestion today, and see what happens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iccaros Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 Ok, well I rehooked my optical mouse up after commenting out the option in /etc/X11/xorg.confdidn't do anything. when I move my mouse the optic light goes out. now I can plug my ball mouse in and it still works. Any other ideas that might help???Does the mouse work properly on another system? The optical beam going out is puzzling, could be faulty hardware. I would try all the different devices under /dev/input as well as /dev/mouse and /dev/psaux if they exist, I would also try Option "Protocol" "auto"yes, I'm using it right now on Windows. no issues. The only time it doesn't work is with Linux. This is a new GE optical mouse. Been using the old ball mouse for the last 7 or 8 months, but got tired of having to continuously clean that stupid things ball, and rollers./dev/psaux doesn't exist in my dev file.try this..replace /dev/input/mice in xorg.conf with /dev/input/mouse0 I'll try that and jcl's suggestion today, and see what happens.oh.. a GE mouse.... I had the GE wireless mouse I could never get to work with anything but windows.. sorry to say. I have no clue as why.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon Posted March 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 didn't get a chance to do that yesterday, however I know jcl's suggestion won't work, now that I think about it, because I go to move the mouse adn that's when the optic laser goes out.I still will try the xorg.conf change to see if that works, hopefully I will get a chance to check that today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon Posted March 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 well that didn't work, didnt' screw up X but still no mouse usage. Maybe I should see about getting the source files and doing a little comparing to the mousedev on DSL to Ubuntu. then recompile the kernel. I know thats going to take a while to do though. especially since I'm not familiar with bash and really dont' have any idea on what I'm doing. It will make an interesting learning process though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shanenin Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 I am sure this has been answered somewhere in this five pages. Is this a usb or ps2 mouse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon Posted March 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 ps2 and I don't want to go out and buy an adapter for a usb port. It shouldn't need it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shanenin Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 ps2 and I don't want to go out and buy an adapter for a usb port. It shouldn't need it.I do not think a usb adapter would even make a difference. If it was a usb mouse i may have thought the problem would be a usb module not getting loaded; that is not the case. I am not sure how much control the Deskop enviroment(kde, gnome) has over the mouse, but you may want to see if a different one works(it might give you ideas). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iccaros Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 ps2 and I don't want to go out and buy an adapter for a usb port. It shouldn't need it.I do not think a usb adapter would even make a difference. If it was a usb mouse i may have thought the problem would be a usb module not getting loaded; that is not the case. I am not sure how much control the Deskop enviroment(kde, gnome) has over the mouse, but you may want to see if a different one works(it might give you ideas).truly I would look at the DSL xorg.conf file and not anything else.. It may be that the IR is showing up as diffrent buttons, since it sends the same signals to the PS/2 port as a ball mouse wiht two buttons/switches..so DSL must be remapping the buttons.. xorg.conf is where that resides Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon Posted March 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 ps2 and I don't want to go out and buy an adapter for a usb port. It shouldn't need it.I do not think a usb adapter would even make a difference. If it was a usb mouse i may have thought the problem would be a usb module not getting loaded; that is not the case. I am not sure how much control the Deskop enviroment(kde, gnome) has over the mouse, but you may want to see if a different one works(it might give you ideas).so far it seems it works fine in KDE desktop. it's just gnome that isn't liking it. I was able to try it on kde desktop in a livecd of ubuntu and it works.ps2 and I don't want to go out and buy an adapter for a usb port. It shouldn't need it.I do not think a usb adapter would even make a difference. If it was a usb mouse i may have thought the problem would be a usb module not getting loaded; that is not the case. I am not sure how much control the Deskop enviroment(kde, gnome) has over the mouse, but you may want to see if a different one works(it might give you ideas).truly I would look at the DSL xorg.conf file and not anything else.. It may be that the IR is showing up as diffrent buttons, since it sends the same signals to the PS/2 port as a ball mouse wiht two buttons/switches..so DSL must be remapping the buttons.. xorg.conf is where that residesi will look into that. Worse case scenario, I go with DSL. The other day was the first time I had actually used it, seemed like a pretty decent setup, plust I feel like it would give me more avialable disk space after installing since it's only 50mb in size, and I have a 5 gig hdd it's on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon Posted March 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 well, thats it, I did a lot of researching into this today, It turns out to be a kernel issue. First I'm going to try the new kernel see if it works, if not, then I will take the original Kernel and figure out how to recompile it and make it work. It just doesn't make sense that the mouse works fine on some distros, but not all of them. It's got to be a programming glitch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iccaros Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 well, thats it, I did a lot of researching into this today, It turns out to be a kernel issue. First I'm going to try the new kernel see if it works, if not, then I will take the original Kernel and figure out how to recompile it and make it work. It just doesn't make sense that the mouse works fine on some distros, but not all of them. It's got to be a programming glitch.kbuntu..it will let you stick with ubuntu ut have KDE (I like kde more... so you really can't trust my openion on this)but...to compile a kernel is easy.. really... were here to help.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon Posted March 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 thanks, and on that note, I will probably be starting a new thread, This one got long enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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