tman70 Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 (edited) I now have my son's computer working but I am having problems with the CD Drive & DVD Rom Drive.Here are the specs:Gateway Essentiale 500cMITSUMI CD-ROM FX4821T!AMITSUMI CR-48XATE I can't get Nero 5.5.8.2 or Roxio Easy CD Creator 5.1 to burn a cd.Neither will reconize the drives.Should I get Nero 6.6 or Nero 7.0? Edited November 23, 2006 by tman70 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Honda_Boy Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Is it a newer CD drive? When my burner crapped out on my old Gateway, Gateway sent us a new one but the old burning software didn't recognize it. Luckily they also sent a new CD burning program with it. The new one worked fine. I'd say use a newer program. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubba Bob Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 First step is to make sure the drive is running the latest firmware, and you have the latest drivers installed on the PC. Does windows recognize the drive as a burner? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tman70 Posted November 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Is it a newer CD drive? When my burner crapped out on my old Gateway, Gateway sent us a new one but the old burning software didn't recognize it. Luckily they also sent a new CD burning program with it. The new one worked fine. I'd say use a newer program.First step is to make sure the drive is running the latest firmware, and you have the latest drivers installed on the PC. Does windows recognize the drive as a burner?My son had these put in about two years ago and never could get them to work and just gave up.Now that I have got his new computer with Xp running he has given this one to me. It has w98se on it for now.I can check the Device Manager and the drives show up with no yellow marks.Where would I find drivers for these if that is the problem? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubba Bob Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 Ok, I may not be correct, but I think i am. That first drive you listed is NOT a burner of any kind. The second drive listed is a a CD-RW (cd burner) but NOT a DVD drive. Now, the drivers should be somewhere on this page. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTerrorist_75 Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 (edited) You need to check that your ASPI layer is installed and functional. I use ASPI Check and ForceASPI to accomplish this.http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=101614 Edited November 10, 2006 by TheTerrorist_75 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deaf_girl Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 You said that your son put the drives in they never worked. Does this mean that you can play CD's but not burn or the players just flat out don't work?If it's the second, you might try checking the jumpers on theback of each drive to make sure one is set to Master and the other to Slave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tman70 Posted November 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 (edited) You need to check that your ASPI layer is installed and functional. I use ASPI Check and ForceASPI to accomplish this.http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=101614You said that your son put the drives in they never worked. Does this mean that you can play CD's but not burn or the players just flat out don't work?If it's the second, you might try checking the jumpers on theback of each drive to make sure one is set to Master and the other to Slave.Thanks TT_75 and deaf_girlI check the jumpers and settings first thing. I used the ASPI Check, got a red screen and it said I did not have ASPI, so I D/L and ran ForceASPI17and then ASPI Check gave me a green screen to say I now had it.I have three cd/w drives and this is what I get when I put them in this computer:Mitsumi CR-48XATE-------Nero can only be used with the recorder it has been bundled with.Nec CD-Rom Drive:28D----Nero will not recognize the drive.ATPI CD-R/RW 48x12------Please insert the medium to write to, Medium required for the compilation CD-R/RW.The ATPI CD-R/RW 48x12 gave me these results.I am using just bought FUJI CD-R. Have tried several different ones in the stack and get same message.One time I used a TDK CD-R and got it to record at 24, but it took about 6 minutes to complete. Never could get it to read though.TT_75 should I D/L and run ASPI18? Edited November 10, 2006 by tman70 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTerrorist_75 Posted November 10, 2006 Report Share Posted November 10, 2006 ASPI17 should work fine. Your CD burner should be set as Master on the Secondary IDE controller.My setup;Primary IDE > HDD0/Master & HDD1/SlaveSecondary IDE > CD-RW/Master & CD-Rom/SlaveMy Memorex 40 MAXX CD-RW came with Roxio which I trashed. I tried Nero but had issues with an older version and switched to NTI. I have never had a problem since. I installed the ASPI17 on both my 98SE and XP setup. I use TDK, Verbatim and Memorex media.If you still experience problems check the IDE cable. Also check out CDBurnerXP Pro or DeepBurner Free. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tman70 Posted November 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 ASPI17 should work fine. Your CD burner should be set as Master on the Secondary IDE controller.My setup;Primary IDE > HDD0/Master & HDD1/SlaveSecondary IDE > CD-RW/Master & CD-Rom/SlaveMy Memorex 40 MAXX CD-RW came with Roxio which I trashed. I tried Nero but had issues with an older version and switched to NTI. I have never had a problem since. I installed the ASPI17 on both my 98SE and XP setup. I use TDK, Verbatim and Memorex media.If you still experience problems check the IDE cable. Also check out CDBurnerXP Pro or DeepBurner Free.My drives are set just as you have posted. D/L DeepBurner but can't get it to let me drag and drop files. I can get to cdroot, but not beyond.I just tried some new Maxwell cd-r's and it will start to burn but then quit. The Fuji and the Maxwell both work on my son's computer.Anything else I can try? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTerrorist_75 Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 The NEC CD-Rom is not a burner. If the Nero is a bundled program that came with a drive it is probably not going to work with other drives.Check out this site for troubleshooting.http://www.cd-burner-help.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martymas Posted November 11, 2006 Report Share Posted November 11, 2006 i had trouble like this once and the problem had to do with my cddvd drive lettersthe burner wouldnt recognise the drive d:but once i switch it to drive e;it worked if you go to comptuer management disk management on the tool bar look for viewthen top then disk list and open it will tell you all the drives you have and the drive lettersim not sure if this will help you maybe it is worth a trymarty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tman70 Posted November 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Thanks martymas, I have tried that and removing from device manager, restarting and nothing works.Everything shows good in device manager and control panel.I have the ATAPI CD-R/RW 48x12 in now. I have bought new Memorex CD-R's and I can Burn files to the CD even though it takes about 6 minutes. But I cannot open it from the CD drive. Bought a cheap $2 DVD Movie to try in the Toshiba DVD-Rom. It won't show up.On my son's new computer I can take the same CD and it opens fine. The DVD plays fine also.Could I have a corrupt file somewhere the reason the drives don't work? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTerrorist_75 Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Is DMA enabled on the drives?Enabling/ Checking DMA In Windows XP/ 2000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tman70 Posted November 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Is DMA enabled on the drives?Enabling/ Checking DMA In Windows XP/ 2000TT_75,Both drives have DMA enabled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTerrorist_75 Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 When you burn the CD are you closing the session? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tman70 Posted November 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 When you burn the CD are you closing the session?When I can get a cd to burn I wait until it finally shows screen saying "do I want to save ISO".I have just tried to burn a cd as a test and and after almost 5 minutes it said burn process completed successfully at 40x.Then a seperate screen popped up saying the same thing. I clicked "OK" and then waited for process to end. After a 10 minute wait I clicked the x in the right hand corner and when it asked if I wanted to save the ISO I said NO.I tried to open it in the drive and cannot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTerrorist_75 Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Why is it asking if you want to save it as an ISO? What are you burning??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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martymas Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 has your drives been detected in the biosif not then the sys wont recognise them depending on your bios they seem to be all different go there and see if your sys can detect those drivesnot noing your bios it is had to give you info marty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tman70 Posted November 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 The Gateway BIOS shows:master as 48x12slave as Toshiba DVD ROM SD-M which is right.In doing some googleing I found something that said I should have these files in c:\windows\command to run cd-roms. They are:atapicd.sysoakcdrom.sysIdecd.sysI don't have these files. Could this be why these drives only partially work?You guys are smarter than me, so should I have these files? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheTerrorist_75 Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 If you are still using Win98SE then you should have those files. To watch movies with the DVD drive you need DVD player software such as PowerDVD or similar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tman70 Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I think I have finally got the CD writer and DVD rom to work.I decided that nothing else had worked so I decided to do a Master Boot Record. Having never done that before I was a little scared, but it must have worked.I can now burn a cd at 48x and open it in control panel. I can also open all of the test cd's I have made in the last few days, which I couldn't before.I also D/L WM Player Classic and can now watch my DVD Video's.I haven't yet figured out how to get WM Classic to automatically open when I insert the DVD.But I will. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shanenin Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I decided that nothing else had worked so I decided to do a Master Boot Record. Having never done that before I was a little scared, but it must have worked.Sounds interesting. What do you mean by that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tman70 Posted November 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 (edited) I decided that nothing else had worked so I decided to do a Master Boot Record. Having never done that before I was a little scared, but it must have worked.Sounds interesting. What do you mean by that?The Gateway has been nothing but problems. I thought I would do a clean install of W98se on a spare drive and use the Gateway disks. When I got to setup I got a "cdr101: not ready reading drive E. Then I tried another drive that I had cloned from the Gateway and got a "load error". I then read that the load error could be a bad MBR. So I tried the "fdisk/mbr". When I rebooted W98se loaded,so I cleaned out everything I had put into the Win\command file:autoexe.bat, config.sys, Idecd.sys and rebooted.After it loaded I tried a test cd in the cdrw and I could open it via My Computer.I could also watch my DVD Video.I was using both my Dell and Gateway. Did the same thing to the Dell and it works.Tried to do a clean install on the Gateway again with the spare drive and got to setup and got the CDR101 error again.The drive that is in there now loads without any problems.I am back to running the Dell Millennia. It works alright.Maybe this will help someone. Edited November 23, 2006 by tman70 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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