Carnevil
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They officially get a thumbs-down from me, until they allow Opera.
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Oh well, looks like I'm going to waste another cd.
btw, when I meant ubuntu is boring me...I meant like, it's getting redudant.
Hell, after couple of weeks using it, I'm still a noob at it.
Anyways, I will first read up stuff about gentoo.
Go for it, use gentoo then after you're doing realizing that it sucks, you can switch to Slackware, Debian or a BSD.
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I had to post this one, because the A-Team f****** rules
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If you ever have this problem again, as root type chmod u=rw filename, that'll give user read and write. You can also you chown, to change the owner of the file.
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Red Hat, Gives both code, bug fixes and addition to the OpenSSH project., the problem is
1. the BSD license says you don't have to .
2. Theo pisses everyone off.. see DARPA and OpenBSD's way to screw up funding http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopic...1,80473,00.html
while he has the right to say what you think, if you what money and support you have to play the game or stop bitiching when you get none.
3. Red Hat Does not Sell OpenSSH, its one of over hundreds of packages in the software.
you Don't see Apache crying.. the Python project or Linus.
its part of the license that programers must accept when they put there efforts into something.
but seeing as Red Hat gives both code, does its own support and gives its upgrades back to the project, they are doing lots more than say , SUN or SCO.
I give money to the project by buying a cd when new releases come out.. I also submit bug reports,
this is as much as they should expect, there license does not even require to give code back
This has nothing to do with the BSD license, they don't want contributed code, they want money. So switching to a GPL won't do that for them. Theo maybe an a**hole, but that doesn't mean OpenSSH should suffer. Red Hat doesn't sell OpenSSH, but they still use it and there's no real alternative. So if OpenSSH goes down they'll most likely be screwed. Red Hat may contribute code, but where's that code going to go if OpenSSH stops developing. A few grand isn't going to hurt Red Hat or any of the other companies. But we all know why they aren't funding OpenSSH, it's because linux and OpenBSD are competitors. They'd rather screw themselves than spend any money.
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Well good, maybe they can help fund OpenSSH, considering they make money off of it. http://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/239/1/
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So all that makes it compile faster?
-O2 slows the compile down a bit compared to -O. Maybe more than a bit. The others options shouldn't have a significant effect.
The relative slowless of Gentoo builds compared to the BSDs is probably a side-effect of the more aggressive optimizations used by Gentoo users. GCC has never been particularly fast (g++ especially was terribly slow until recently) and it can get seriously bogged down if you flip the wrong switches and twist the knobs to far.
Wasn't GCC4 suppose to speed things up? I never understood all the optimizations used by the gentoo community. It's funny every now and then somebody will show up on the FreeBSD mailing lists with a buildworld problem. Somebody always asks them for their make.conf file, and always it's full of stuff they don't need. You can almost tell they just stepped off the gentoo train. After the person tells them to remove almost all of the stuff, the OP always comes back with "hey it worked".
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I really didn't think there was anything special about portage....maybe I'm not getting the inner workings but emerge <your app of choice> doesn't seem much different than apt-get install <your app of choice>
Emerge KDE or GNOME. The differentness will start to sink in ten or twelve hours into the build. Especially if the build fails.
Gotta love the twelve hour builds, maybe it's just my perception of time, but ports seems to build things faster. Like KDE, with the exact same system gentoo took about twelve hours to build, FreeBSD was about 4-6 hours. It took me 2 hours to build firefox on gentoo, that was annoying. Apt-get would be more like pkg_add or even pkgsrc.
hmm. Thats funny, I can build a gentoo system with KDE in about 6 hours from the ground up. I have found that what you put in make.conf if everything..
These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically built this stage
# Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example
CFLAGS="-O2 -mcpu=pentium4 -fforce-addr -funroll-loops -fprefetch-loop-arrays -falign-functions=4 -mmmx -msse -msse2 -mfpmath=sse -pipe"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
MAKEOPTS="-j3"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
USE="-doc hal pic unicode dvdr cdparanoia wxwindows dvdread dvdwrite a52 avi mad dvd audiofile aac win32codecs sndfile ffmpeg xv divx4linux dv encode fame mpeg ogg quicktime subtitles vorbis xvid doc libusb cups foomaticdb ppds and usb scanner opengl java python perl mozilla alsa X sse sse2 mysql -gnome gkt gtk2 qt kde dvdrw cdr mmx tcltk ati ipw2100 "
So all that makes it compile faster? Isn't that kind of like putting a carbon fiber hood, and a six foot wing on a Honda Civic. But since were talking about make.conf files I should probably show you mine.
CFLAGS= -O -pipe
NO_PROFILE= true # Avoid compiling profiled libraries
# added by use.perl 2006-03-18 03:50:41
PERL_VER=5.8.8
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I really didn't think there was anything special about portage....maybe I'm not getting the inner workings but emerge <your app of choice> doesn't seem much different than apt-get install <your app of choice>
Emerge KDE or GNOME. The differentness will start to sink in ten or twelve hours into the build. Especially if the build fails.
Gotta love the twelve hour builds, maybe it's just my perception of time, but ports seems to build things faster. Like KDE, with the exact same system gentoo took about twelve hours to build, FreeBSD was about 4-6 hours. It took me 2 hours to build firefox on gentoo, that was annoying. Apt-get would be more like pkg_add or even pkgsrc.
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Same here. Debian is the only distro I've switched to twice.
That's a bummer with your Gentoo install. I never got that far with Gentoo; I got about halfway through the install before I boinked it all up. I can't really offer an opinion about Gentoo, I kind of like the idea of portage it sort of reminds me of apt in a way. I frequently wreak my Slackware install by trying new things and then I get frustrated and over-write it, re-install, heh-heh:-)
For now Debian is my distro of choice, it runs really lean and fast, and just works once you set it up, as you know:-) I find it odd that Debian sets up a mail transfer agent as part of the install process, that's the only weird thing I've noticed about Debian.
I'm happy to hear that you think Debian is okay, jcl!!
Trust me hitest, you aren't missing anything. I screwed up a gentoo install atleast six times before getting it right. After a week of playing with it, I realized the hassle I went through wasn't worth it. Portage is nothing but a fubared version of FreeBSD's ports. (waits for criticism for that remark) But it isn't the distro that'll drive you the most insane, it's the gentoo community. A few sites have delved deep into the inner workings of the gentoo community. One is a nice comedic look into the community http://funroll-loops.org/ the other is a more practical look http://greenfly.org/mes.html. I say just stick with Debian or Slack or possibly a BSD and you'll be very happy.
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If you don't mind me asking, why didn't you go back to the BSD's.
FreeBSD's Linux compatibility wasn't quite compatible enough, NetBSD didn't have the NVIDIA drivers, Dragonfly was too much work, OpenBSD was OpenBSD.
That must be some hardcore linux stuff, I've seen the FreeBSD linux compatibility layer run some sh*t, with minimal fuss that is. It's too bad NetBSD doesn't have Nvidia drivers. Matt Dillion does have a long way to go to get Dragonfly to run smoothly. OpenBSD, well Theo had better get his sh*t together, if he expects it to survive, considering it's having financial problems. Which sucks, because that's going to put a damper on development for both OpenBSD and OpenSSH.
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Very nice hitest, but it's a little plain. I think you need something to spruce it up a little, something like this *IMAGE REMOVED*.
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.......yes..........you're correct........that image is better.................................I'm sure my wife would like me to have that as my desktop:-)
If she's an loving and understanding woman I'm sure she'd be fine with it.
Besides, do you know how long it took me to find a schoolgirl background where the girl wasn't asian,animated, or naked? -
Arch's pacman is suppose to be good, have you tried that one.
Yeah. Arch was my first choice when I gave up on Gentoo. It is quite nice but the documentation policy drove me away.
(Arch doesn't package any docs except for manpages. If you need the full documentation for a package you're supposed to get it yourself from the WWW.)
That to me shows a lack of care for the people who use their distro. If you don't mind me asking, why didn't you go back to the BSD's.
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Personally I think Gentoo handles deps better then most other distros (not to say ive tried every distro), in the three years or so i've used gentoo I can't remember one dependency problem, while in the two weeks or so ive used Suse 10 OSS I have had several to deal with.
Did I ever mention that I switched to Ubuntu because my Gentoo install was so mired in dependency hell that it was impossible to update?
All package managers hate me.
Arch's pacman is suppose to be good, have you tried that one.
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if it 1.0.7 then you have the current fixes for that configuration. Mozilla is running two different versions of FF right now, 1.0.7 soon to be updated to 1.0.8 and 1.5.01 so make sure you know exactly what version of FF your using.
Sorry to have taken this off topic
Hey Dragon, yep I'm running FF 1.0.7 so I should have the current fixes for that. Yes, I'm sure it is 1.0.7 as it doesn't have the features that I've seen in FF 1.5.0.1 on my Slackware box.
No need to apologize, I've enjoyed this thread.
Here's a shot of Debian Etch again, KDE 3.5.1 and some tunes:-)
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d102/hit...snapshot142.jpg
Very nice hitest, but it's a little plain. I think you need something to spruce it up a little, something like this *IMAGE REMOVED*.
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FreeBSD7.0 Current
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my buggy freebsd 6.0RC1 install:
Perhaps one of these days I'll get around to actually fixing it, but it's running fine as it is.
As for the sparseness, I'm a traditional unix kinda man, small tools that I can pipe together, and only use what I need when I need it. ROX-Filer handles my spatial file management and type association needs while windowmaker handles all my windows, and I can say I've never desired anything more.
As for my netbsd 3 install, it is virtually identical (I symlinked home to this drive), except with a quarter of the dock actually launching anything and twice the building tools.
And before I forget, the obligatory 'source city' screenshot:
It's nice to see a fellow BSD user on here. Question though, why you still using an old RC1 install?
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Spring has sprung my ass, it's colder than a witches ass here.
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I am still bad at this can you please try to do it for me and stuff please it is due tommorrow i really need to finish this thank you.
Nobody should be doing your work for you. You should've done it before you only had one day till it was due. Failing this, will be a great lesson for you to learn.
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I'll add this link http://www.cyberdiem.com/vin/learn.html. Naming is hard I don't understand how you couldn't find anything about C, considering it's used to write most *nix OSes that and assembly.
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Is there newest version of Solaris than the version i am installing ?
You need the newest version of grub, because grub wasn't able to recognize Solaris UFS until recently.
This is from the grub tutorial from Suns website.GRUB as obtained from sources other than Sun does not currently recognize Solaris on-disk VTOC and UFS formats. Sun has submitted changes to the GRUB project to support this; until they have been integrated, only the Solaris GRUB will work. If Linux installed GRUB on the master boot block, you will not be able to get to the Solaris OS even if you make the Solaris partition the active partition. In this case, you can chainload from the Linux GRUB by modifying the menu on Linux. -
I need a damn drink, I thought just maybe Michigan was past winter. It was 60 today and it's going to be 65 tomorrow. But after that it's suppose to snow and be really cold, Michigan weather is so depressing.
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I'm not a Solaris guy but I'll give you a few things to look at, http://www.sun.drydog.com/faq/9.html also look here http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/features/artic...ot_solaris.html
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Check these out http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html, you could also go with (IBM)Lenovo.
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If it isn't intended to be a multibrowser solution why are they looking into using other browsers.