[Sp3 And Ie7 Question]

I have D/L and installed sp3 on my Dell Millennia and so far have had no problems. I had also had IE7 installed and working before I D/L SP3.

Back in March I tried to D/L IE7 on my son's Compaq Presario but it would not open and I could never find the reason why, so I just left IE6 on his computer.

My question is this.

If IE7 won't work on his computer and I D/L SP3, will he still be able to use IE6 since it won't let you revert back to IE6?

Or should I forget about SP3 for now?

Thanks

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Yes you would need to purchase the cpu separately. Those boards I chose would work with the cpu, AMD dual core 4400+ 2.3 GHz processor, you mentioned purchasing. If you have a SATA harddrive, I think the Gigabyte board you mentioned would be a good choice.

Please don't hesitate to ask more questions to clarify anything :-)

Thanks for all the help shanenin and all the rest of you who responded.

I got the (ATI Rage 128 Ultra Video Card - 16MB, AGP 2x/4x, VGA, Video Card) this afternoon.

The end of the metal clip was to short to connect to the back of the computer. So I just took a pair of pliers and bent the end up straight and installed it.

After I hooked the monitor to it and booted up---it worked.

So it was the onboard video that was bad.

I now am back to normal on his computer.

He was very lucky that was the problem. Now the people who sent it to me said if it worked to send them $10 or if it didn't, to send it back. I'll have to write them a check and get it in the mail.

As far as I can tell everything is working just like it was. Video's play good as far as I can tell. Will let him check more later.

I'll keep all the other information for later.

Again has any one had any experience with a device called "CPU & Motherboard PC Analyzer Card?

For about $20 I was wondering if it would tell me anything if I should have to go through this again.

Thanks everyone for all the help.

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I think gigabyte makes good quality stuff. The only thing that may be a problem with that board is it only has one ide channel(like the majority of the new boards). Onless your hardrive is SATA, you will need two IDE channels, one for the optical drive and one for the harddrive.

The following board may work for you. It has two weak points. One is it does not use pci express, it still uses agp. The onboard video chipset is kind of weak. If I use onboard myself, I like tho use one with an nvidia chipet.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813138038

the following asus board may be a better fit. It also has weak onboard video, but it does have pci express. Since it uses pci express, you can be a very inexpensive high-quality video card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813131223

Keep in mind, you will also have to upgrade your ram to ddr2. That is not much of an issue. You can get a gigabyte stick for about $20

Thanks shanenin

As I said before I know nothing about cpu's or motherboard's, so if my questions sound dumb just bear with me.

Do these boards come with the cpu installed or do I have to buy one?

If I do what kind(specs) do I buy?

Thanks

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Thanks------The Dragon Slayer

I know absolutely nothing about how to mix and match cpu's and motherboard's.

My son wants to know if these two items would work in his SR1012NX computer.

He thinks he can get them for about $130.00. Is that a good price if it will work in his computer?

GIGABYTE GA-MA69GM-S2H SOCKET AM2/AM2+ MICROATX HDMI MOTHERBOARD

Brand GIGABYTE

Model GA-MA69GM-S2H

Supported CPU

CPU Socket Type AM2

CPU Type Athlon 64 X2 / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64

AMD dual core 4400+ 2.3 GHz processor / 1MB L2 Cache / 2000MHz HT / AM2 socket / support for SSE, SSE2, SSE3 and MMX instructions / Sixteen 128-bit SSE/SSE2/SSE3 registers

Thanks

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I had the exact problem happened to my AMD XP desktop. Light and fans were on. Power and reset switches didn't work and had to turn the power off from the power supply switch. I went as far as swapping in and out a good vedio card and nothing worked. I ended up replacing the motherboard and the cpu and reused the other old parts. As Pete said, there is no way for me to test the m/b and cpu since amd 462 m/b and cpu are hard to find. Now I have AMD dual core that costs less than the original AMD XP 2600. lol.

Did you replace the motherboard with the same number and what is the specs on your AMD?

My son's SR1012NX on compaq's web site, since that is the only way I can get any specs now, says his cpu is either:

AMD Athlon ( XP 3000+ 2.167GHz *Advanced 333 MHz front side bus

or

AMD Athlon ( XP 3400+ 2.167GHz *Advanced 333 MHz front side bus

So I don't know what he should get.

Has any one had any experience with a device called "CPU & Motherboard PC Analyzer Card?

I'm beginning to think he would be better off buying another discount computer for what he will end up putting in this one.

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Tried the other power supply but it did not make any difference.

I put the compaq power suppy back in and removed the ram.

Turned on computer and got one long beep. Replaced ram and got nothing.

Looks like I am down to the video, cpu or motherboard.

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The Compaq power supply is 250 watts.

I have a power supply that I removed from an old Gateway.

It is Model number ATX93-3405. It is 185 watts.

Could I use this to check if power supply is the problem?

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If that ATI Rage is functional it will work to test the PC. Look up on HP's site on how to disable the onboard video once you can see again.

Thanks TT_75.

I'll call them to send it. As I understand it is supposed to be new in the box.

If it works we can then go for a better one. I'll post back with results in a few days.

Thanks everyone.

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This is a HP/Compaq? You may have an AGP slot. In any case you should be able to install a PCI video card to test.

There is a AGP slot so would this cheap card work to tell me if it is the video?

ATI Rage 128 Ultra Video Card - 16MB, AGP 2x/4x, VGA, Video Card

Found someone who will mail it to me if it will work in his computer.

Presario SR1012NX

Motherboard is an ASUS A7N8X-LA

Thanks

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Video card or onboard video port crapped out.

BTW. I still use IE6 fully updated for when it is needed. I refuse to allow IE7 on my system.

The motherboard is:

ASUS A7N8-LA I believe.

Don't see a video card---only onboard video port.

Does this mean we will have to replace the motherboard?

You could try installing a video card to see if your problem is resolved. If you have one or know someone with a spare, pop it in, load the drivers and see.

Don't have any kind of card nor do we know anybody that does.

How do I determine what kind of card to get?

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Video card or onboard video port crapped out.

BTW. I still use IE6 fully updated for when it is needed. I refuse to allow IE7 on my system.

The motherboard is:

ASUS A7N8-LA I believe.

Don't see a video card---only onboard video port.

Does this mean we will have to replace the motherboard?

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New problem. I have give up trying to fix IE7.

This evening I noticed my son's screen was black. I turned off the computer and then turned it back on.

No beep---No error screen. Screen still black.

I tried another monitor, another HD cable, same results.

Tried HD that I had installed xp on but at that time it would not let me activate it, same result.

Replaced cmos battery same result.

All fans are running and HD's do spin.

Does it look like the Bios chip has gone bad?

[Ie7 Will Not Open After Install]

OK-- I went to the sys32 folder and scrolled down to wpa.dbl and copied it to the floppy, but could not find a wpa.bak file nor could a search find it. Hooked master HD back up and searched for it there to no avail. I know I saw a bak file the other day.

I then hooked up spare HD again and installed xp-sp2 home from my cd.

After install went to safe mode, renamed wpa file and then copied original wpa to sys32 folder.

Rebooted and it still wants to activate before I can download updates.

Ran Microsoft Genuine Advantage Diagnostic Tool and the product key did not match the key on the case. This unit was bought factory new from discount store more than 2 years ago and all updates are current except IE7.

Could this be the reason I can't use my xp cd to activate?

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There are two files you needed to save. "wpa.dbl" and "wpa.bak"

You need to save both of them files to reactivate without going through MS. But it will have to be the same computer and hardware configuration to work. Any XP disk should work as long as it's Home to Home, Or Pro to Pro.

Thanks JSKY. I wondered if i should have copied the bak file but the instructions I had saved a long time ago only had the dbl file listed.

He has no xp cd as his computer only has a recovery partition.

I will try again tomorrow when my son goes to work. I would like to make a fresh install and then see if 7 will open before I do anything else.

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I think it must be something in the settings. I think if you go into the settings: Tools/Internet Options Connections and see what is listed in Lan settings you might find a problem. Automatically Detect settings is the only thing I would have checked. Even try to Reset the Advanced Settings. Just in case something is getting transfered over from IE6 that IE7 doesn't like. Again try going to another site when you get the message use www. and see if that helps.

Automatically Detect Settings had a check mark so I unchecked it and rebooted. 7 still won't connect. Uninstall 7 and go back to 6 and reboot, then reinstall 7, same results with either check mark in or out.

I can try www.msn, microsoft, yahoo, google or besttechie and it just sets there trying to connect with no results.

I saved a copy of wpa.dbl to a floppy.

I took my copy of xp-sp2 Home and installed it on his spare HD. Did not activate and finished install and then went to safe mode. I renamed wpa.dbl and then installed original from floppy and rebooted. That didn't work as it ask me to activate xp to get updates. I thought replacing the wpa file with the original would bypass the re-activating. Guess my legal copy of xp that I bought will only work on my computer.

[Ie7 Will Not Open After Install]

Try uninstalling Windows Update "kb942615". Now see If you can then use IE7.

There have been reported problems I found searching with this update. But the boys at MS think all those posting it are crazy, and that it's some form of melware infecting IE6 that's not compatible with IE7. They insist it's not in the browser or the update.

It is a security fix for SP2. SP3 might solve this problem.

Thanks JSKY. Uninstalled KB942615 rebooted twice. Installed IE7 from MS update, rebooted twice and still get error message.

[Ie7 Will Not Open After Install]

The only thing I can think of is you got a bad download of IE7. Might delete it and try downloading it again. It only takes a single glitch in a download to mess things up. Where did you download from?

I agree, if I had only downloaded it one time. I have D/L it from Microsoft updates more time than I can count now. I reboot twice before trying to open and reboot twice after each uninstall.

I have just now cloned the HD and then uninstalled IE7 and then went to the restore partition and did a system restore.

After reboot I tried IE and it would not connect. Firefox will connect.

I have spent some time getting rid of HP's junk so I can work on it. Now to find why IE won't connect.

[Ie7 Will Not Open After Install]

Uninstalled Firefox--rebooted--reinstalled IE7, still doesn't coonect to internet. IE6 does.

Uninstalled JKDefrag,Legacy,MGI photosuite and wordweb. rebooted and reinstalled IE7.

Still doesn't work.

Nothing else to remove is there?

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OK---I have removed programs from the cloned drive and rebooted after each removal but it still won't work.

I have even uninstalled IE7 after every third program removal and reinstalled but to no avail.

This is all that is left in ADD/REMOVE:

ABBY Fine Reader 5.0 Sprint

Agere System PCI Software

Compaq Connections (unable to uninstall)

Java

JKDefrag

Legacy

MGI photosuite

Mozilla FireFox

Nivida Display driver

Nivida Ethernet Driver

Nivida Gart Driver

Startup Monitor

Windows Installer 3.1 (KB893503)

Windows IE7

Windows xpsp2

Wordweb

I don't think there is anything left to remove.

I am wondering if he could have a corrupted file in xp.

Could I use my xp cd to run a check or repair?

If so how do I do it?

[Ie7 Will Not Open After Install]

Have you run Malware and Spyware programs on the system to see if it finds any? Might try getting rid of any of those before installing IE7. Might even run the Anti Virus program also.

Yes--- that was the first thing I did. I updated everything and ran them first. Then started on the step by step procedure.

Right now I am removing a program at a time and rebooting to see if I can find the problem.

[Ie7 Will Not Open After Install]

Now you know.... IE7 has little features that help protect you from the dark and seedier side of the net....

Just what is that homepage you are trying to get to.....

IE7 is going to see MY DARK SIDE if it doesn't start cooperating!

WHOA!!---Getting mad never solved a problem and when you go beating on an inanimate object, You only end up hurting yourself.

Tomorrow I will clone the other H/D and then remove all the programs and browsers(except IE6).

IE7 should install and open to the internet. I'll then add programs until I find the one causing the problem.

This all I can think to do at this time.

[Ie7 Will Not Open After Install]

Well, the other H/D didn't make any difference either.

I guess I could remove everthing on that H/D with ADD/REMOVE except updates and IE6 and then install IE7.

That should tell me something.

[Ie7 Will Not Open After Install]

Try these steps

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926431

Amongst the steps, try the no add ons feature

click Start, point to All Programs, point to Accessories, point to System Tools, and then click Internet Explorer (No Add-ons).

To ensure it is not a toolbar, or malware causing this problem.

Since IE6 works you know that it is not your computer or modem, but something which affects IE7 differently than IE6

Hi Pete. Thanks for the input.

Before I started this thread I first tried the support from microsoft page and started with the first method and worked my thru all 12 or 13 methods,rebooting after each one, and nothing worked.

I had already tried the "No Add-ons" and it did not work either.

I agree with you it has to be a program or something he has downloaded, that I have yet to find, that is the problem. I am now reinstalling IE7 to try something else. If it does not work again I am going to use his backup HD that I cloned several weeks ago and see if IE7 will work on it.

If it does I can then compare what is on each one to see if I can find the problem.

Thanks again.

[Ie7 Will Not Open After Install]

Do you by chance have a download accelerator or speed optimizer installed. That will stop IE7 from connecting. You will have to remove them.

We are on cable internet so there is neither of those in the system.

I have been looking for anything that pertains to Norton or Smantec that was left over from earlier uninstalls.

When I find anything I remove it and reboot, but still can't get IE7 to open.

I am removing programs that are not in use to see if that might be the problem.

I don't think it is, as I tried to open IE7 in safe mode and it still would not open.

Thanks for the suggestions.

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Just making sure. You didn't reinstall XP and now want to install IE7?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917964

No-- this is the original XP sp2 home that came with the Compaq computer. There is no xp cd, only a recovery partion.

However I do have a legal xp sp2 cd for my computer.

I can uninstall IE7 and go back to IE6 and it works.