oldpaint1 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 The computer will boot but not log in even safe mode.I tried to use the CD to fix it in install/-repair mode but it did not recognise it as 'right' I can't remember the term. I ran a check disk and I did fix something but that did not help. I have a spare C:. Booting from that, the old C: is accessable as any other disk. I booted with a boot log. It got to the resourse loop and then it died.Any idea what the problem might be?I REALLY do not want to format the disk! That was the only solution given on another, less expert forum. I will only do that after I buy another disk and transfer everything to the new disk. I am hoping something small is 'snarled'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lefty1953 Posted February 4, 2011 Report Share Posted February 4, 2011 The computer will boot but not log in even safe mode.I tried to use the CD to fix it in install/-repair mode but it did not recognise it as 'right' I can't remember the term. I ran a check disk and I did fix something but that did not help. I have a spare C:. Booting from that, the old C: is accessable as any other disk. I booted with a boot log. It got to the resourse loop and then it died.Any idea what the problem might be?I REALLY do not want to format the disk! That was the only solution given on another, less expert forum. I will only do that after I buy another disk and transfer everything to the new disk. I am hoping something small is 'snarled'.Did you use Administrators access to log in? Did you recently install something new? If so go into safe mode and remove it from Add/Remove. If you use administrators access and still can't log in it could be a virus. How about using Last known Good configuration? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pete_C Posted February 5, 2011 Report Share Posted February 5, 2011 When you tried booting to the CD, did you first change bios boot order to include CD and then press the any key when prompted to press any key to boot to CD? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldpaint1 Posted February 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) When you tried booting to the CD, did you first change bios boot order to include CD and then press the any key when prompted to press any key to boot to CD?Yes I tried all the above. Yes, I did add new hardware a big diff, the mobo. However, it was as close to the old as it could be. The other C: works fine. However, you did get me thinking. I had a sound card in the old configuration. I took it out because the new mobo should have that working. The other C: may have predated the sound failure on the mobo. I can't remember. The sound was the first thing to go maybe a year and 1/2 ago. Every few months a drive or USB port would die. I had plenty of both. It wasn't till it was clear that the erosion of utility wasn't going to stop that I replaced it. I did not notice any erosion for at least 6 months after I put in a sound card.I guess I will put the sound card back in and see what happens.I used to scan with Malwarebites weely just as routine. I would find a virus every now and then. The scan after the problem was clean. Edited February 7, 2011 by oldpaint1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lefty1953 Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 When you tried booting to the CD, did you first change bios boot order to include CD and then press the any key when prompted to press any key to boot to CD?Yes I tried all the above. Yes, I did add new hardware a big diff, the mobo. However, it was as close to the old as it could be. The other C: works fine. However, you did get me thinking. I had a sound card in the old configuration. I took it out because the new mobo should have that working. The other C: may have predated the sound failure on the mobo. I can't remember. The sound was the first thing to go maybe a year and 1/2 ago. Every few months a drive or USB port would die. I had plenty of both. It wasn't till it was clear that the erosion of utility wasn't going to stop that I replaced it. I did not notice any erosion for at least 6 months after I put in a sound card.I guess I will put the sound card back in and see what happens.I used to scan with Malwarebites weely just as routine. I would find a virus every now and then. The scan after the problem was clean.If you just changed the Motherboard and now can't boot, that is the problem. You can't change hardware like that and expect Windows to boot. If you put the old MB back in it will boot again. Windows looks for the hardware that it was first installed with. If it isn't right it wont boot. SO the choice is Old MB or format and install again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldpaint1 Posted February 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 If you are so sure it is the motherboard why does the other disk boot up just fine or is it just magic? I do not believe in magic so I can't see how it is the motherboard. I configured the drive that works on the same mother board and it has no problems. In fact when I went to install the new drivers for the C: that works, the install routine claimed all the drivers were installed and OK. Why would the XP repair routine claim there wasn't a windows partition on that disk when I went to repair it if the problem was only the motherboard. It is not the bootsector because I replaced it and I ran chkdsk on the drive so it isn't the actual partition. I do not get any registy errors so what ever the problem is it is probably encountered before the registry is opened. Is it possible to have a registry error but not have an error message?I am building a new drive. Unfortunatly I have software on the old drive that I use from time to time and I have lost the install disks. I doubt that all the compaines are even in business. These are far more valuable to me than cost of a new disk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JSKY Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Just a hunch. I build my own computers and just got done with my newest.I find that a booting problem from a older to a newer build sometimes comes from tweaking the operating system to run smoother or faster or what not on the old motherboard.Setting a multi-core processor to boot with multiple cores on the old motherboard as an example. Might not be a good idea on a new model and cause the same type of problem your having. I have learned to untweak and default whatever settings I can before moving an operating system from a older motherboard to a newer one.Hope this might give you a few ideas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lefty1953 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 I REALLY do not want to format the disk! That was the only solution given on another, less expert forum. I will only do that after I buy another disk and transfer everything to the new disk. I am hoping something small is 'snarled'.I guess you know best. Good luck with that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldpaint1 Posted February 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) I am just frustrated. I volinteer on several boards in areas I am more expert. I can't expect you to know everything, who does. I am truely greatful for all your effort. You have forced me to carefully re-think the probelm which is a step in the right direction. The advice well intentioned, but not completely logical. I believe something got corupt possibly by a virus. I rule out the mobo since I configured a C: 18 months ago using the same mobo. That works fine. I will look into the error message I get when I tried to fix windows on the disfunctional C:. I will need to try that again and write down that exact error message. That is the clue since the partition is fine. I will post a reply if I am able to fix the problem. Edited February 9, 2011 by oldpaint1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rhema7 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 I am just frustrated. I volinteer on several boards in areas I am more expert. I can't expect you to know everything, who does. I am truely greatful for all your effort. You have forced me to carefully re-think the probelm which is a step in the right direction. The advice well intentioned, but not completely logical. I believe something got corupt possibly by a virus. I rule out the mobo since I configured a C: 18 months ago using the same mobo. That works fine. I will look into the error message I get when I tried to fix windows on the disfunctional C:. I will need to try that again and write down that exact error message. That is the clue since the partition is fine. I will post a reply if I am able to fix the problem.This really sounds like a damaged drive perhaps some bad sectors. Hard discs fail in some strange ways. If you can get a copy of Spinrite 6 http://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm try running it trough it's paces (may not be worth the price so if you can find a friend to let you borrow a copy it would be better). I maybe entirely off base with this but it would be something I would check. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JSKY Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 I am just frustrated. I volinteer on several boards in areas I am more expert. I can't expect you to know everything, who does. I am truely greatful for all your effort. You have forced me to carefully re-think the probelm which is a step in the right direction. The advice well intentioned, but not completely logical. I believe something got corupt possibly by a virus. I rule out the mobo since I configured a C: 18 months ago using the same mobo. That works fine. I will look into the error message I get when I tried to fix windows on the disfunctional C:. I will need to try that again and write down that exact error message. That is the clue since the partition is fine. I will post a reply if I am able to fix the problem.This really sounds like a damaged drive perhaps some bad sectors. Hard discs fail in some strange ways. If you can get a copy of Spinrite 6 http://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm try running it trough it's paces (may not be worth the price so if you can find a friend to let you borrow a copy it would be better). I maybe entirely off base with this but it would be something I would check.It is Hard to say... If it was a fresh install. But when you have the Master Boot Record., Drivers, tweaks and different settings for a different motherboard. And your moving the whole already installed OS to a new motherboard. Then it could be a number of little things taking it down.I just moved everything I have from a older AMD x2 setup to a new X6 processor and motherboard. I had my old system set to boot off of both cores in msconfig on my old motherboard. After moving the OS to the new setup. It would get to the windows screen and then go right into a error message. I had to go back to the old mothrboard and finally set it back to boot with the default settings. (took a couple of tries to find what i missed in defaulting all my settings).That turned out to be the problem. Everything came right up on the new board as if nothing was wrong after that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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