microsoft security essentials

[martymas]

hi team has any one installed microsofy security essentials

from windows updates

well i did and it turned off all other scanners

and as a result i got a trojon

accessing a science program

when i started my compt

all scanners had to be turned on

i turned on malwarebytes and scanned with it

it found 4 trojans

the mse

even turned of avast

jeez what the hells wrong with microsoft

that b--- dosent make them any friends

if it had of bin xp instead of vista this would not have happened

geez ime bloody angry

ive alwayes bin security aware

but this is the last straw

marty

[isteve]

Are you sure MSE turned off the scanning and not the 4 trojans.

[martymas]

Are you sure MSE turned off the scanning and not the 4 trojans.

no ime sure it wasent the trojons

when i booted my compt all the scanner were red

this has happened throug out several weeks

and i had to go and active vate them

i guarentee it was that up date

ive since uninstalled it and my scanners are back to normal

in particular the automatic updating

which wasent happening before

as i used to have to up date manually

when i installed the program it

found malwarebytes and avast

as not essential programs and remimded me to

take them off my sys

but ive used these programs for a long time

and ive never ever had to worry bout malware

for me they can jam it right up there

gungas

i thought microsoft

would have learned by now people are becoming compt aware

and they can keep sending shit to us

marty

[TheTerrorist_75]

MSE is an anti-virus program. You cannot have it run resident with the other scanners therefore they will be deactivated. Remember the rule, 1 anti-virus and 1 software firewall. You are not supposed to run MBAM and Avast together as resident. MBAM should be used manually if you are running another anti-virus program.

[JDoors]

I've run MS security software exclusively since the update to Windows 7 -- If it didn't catch the trojan, how did you know you "caught" one?

[isteve]

JDoors and anyone else using MSE do you think it's a good security solution? I do computer support for a school we have 50 Dell laptops that came with 4 years of MaFee protection. The 4 years is almost up and to save money I was thinking about using MSE. We have site license for a vendors version of symentec corporate but we would need to expand the license to cover the laptops. We get a lot of malware downloaded to these MaFee catches some and I have a few kids that run Malwarebytes monthly for me. Even with this I still need to re-image them once in a while.

[martymas]

i had a feeling some thing was wrong

as when i tried to open IE

it hung several times

for about a minute

and that is unusal for my compt

after several trys

i scanned with all my scanners

that was operating

the microsoft scanners found nothing

defender.mse

nor mrt

once i scanned with malwarebytes

it found these 4 trojons

i have to say i paniced as i

havent had a trojon before

but the malwarebytes instructions helped

as i quarentined them then

deleted later

no other scanner found these trojons

ime only a new user of malwarebytes

but after this it will be a regular

in the past defender

and mrt

havent been a problem until i installed this

mse

even avast was compatable with defender and mrt

had it not been for malwarebytes

i would have bin in the pooh

i feel it is the third party contract companys

were the trouble is

is it a rule in the usa

were companys like microsoft have to include

third party contract

when they bring out a new product

hey a friend just rang me he has had the same trouble

i feel better now as i though i was just whinging

it is ok for all the experts

but what about us mugs

marty

Edited November 15, 2009 by martymas

[TheTerrorist_75]

Marty, you need to copy and paste the MBAM quarantine log here. It may have picked up on the files for MSE.

JDoors and anyone else using MSE do you think it's a good security solution? I do computer support for a school we have 50 Dell laptops that came with 4 years of MaFee protection. The 4 years is almost up and to save money I was thinking about using MSE. We have site license for a vendors version of symentec corporate but we would need to expand the license to cover the laptops. We get a lot of malware downloaded to these MaFee catches some and I have a few kids that run Malwarebytes monthly for me. Even with this I still need to re-image them once in a while.

It is not ready for the corporate or educational system world. Hell, it isn't ready enough for me to use.

[JDoors]

Marty's experience aside, and you can't disount it, I've had no problem using MSSE. Considering what the original program was based on, it's a fine solution, competitive with other products -- though I have NO idea if that applies to network situations (being MS, I'd bet it's fine for that, too).

And it's free. And, again being MS, they may use calls and tricks other products aren't even aware of (though that could be either good OR bad).

[isteve]

I'm going to give it a try on a couple of laptops today and see how it goes. When used in the school we don't have two much problems but we let staff check them out to take home. Also the kids will bring files in from home for projects.

[TheTerrorist_75]

Microsoft Security Essentials 1.0 review

Bottom Line

Installing the free Microsoft Security Essentials will protect your system from malware—to a degree. But you'll get better protection from one of the other well-known free anti-malware products.

Pros

Free. Small download. Clean, simple user interface. Starts working immediately.

Cons

Poor protection against keyloggers, rootkits, and scareware. Just average protection against general malware. In testing, sometimes erroneously reported successful malware removal or blocking.

[martymas]

Microsoft Security Essentials 1.0 review

Bottom Line

Installing the free Microsoft Security Essentials will protect your system from malwareto a degree. But you'll get better protection from one of the other well-known free anti-malware products.

Pros

Free. Small download. Clean, simple user interface. Starts working immediately.

Cons

Poor protection against keyloggers, rootkits, and scareware. Just average protection against general malware. In testing, sometimes erroneously reported successful malware removal or blocking.

hi all who posted

thanks for your input

many people in my catergory will get caught

with this compatable thing

on scanners

until i installed mse

i had no problems with the other scanners

in this case it was turning the scanners off that

caused the trouble

as as proof

once i uninstalled mse

ive had no problems

i dare say many of you with more know how

than me will be abl;e to get round it

but there are millions of us in the same boat

how ever your posts have

made me more aware

i paniced because i have never exoerienced this problem before

so again thanks

marty

Edited November 17, 2009 by martymas

[isteve]

I installed it on two 4 year old Dell laptops. I downloaded it on a mac and put it on a flash drive. The install was easy and took a few minutes to download the definitions. The interface is clean and simple to use. The full scan took almost 1h 45m to complete.

I also had a classroom computer that was hijacked with one of those fake antivirus. I figured I'd give MSE a try, found fakespypro and koobface and removed them along with several infected files. I then ran Malwarebytes came back clean. I'm going to keep a eye on it if we have any more problems I'll re-image the drive.

I like it so far I think over the christmas break I'll get a couple of students to help me remove the old Mcafee and install MSE on the old Dells.

[JDoors]

You reminded me of one of the main reasons I switched, McAfee. I haven't had any problems with McAfee for several years now (there was a time when updates would crash), but ... I thought it was about time I started using a free solution, so I thought I'd at least give MSSE a try.