martymas Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 (edited) here is some info i got off the net this is one city which was affectedthe other which is north of where i live had severe storms but it was rain and wind and is probaably the warmest climate in nzmany had to be evacuated from floods ectto others around the world it is familair news but here it is unusual newsile sens the other linkfor you latermartyhttp://search.xtramsn.co.nz/results.aspx?q...=10&go.y=10 Edited July 28, 2007 by martymas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martymas Posted July 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 (edited) hi bubba bobthese two citys ive highlighted because they are at the oposite ends of the countrythere have been extremes in between those two places and this weather is extreme at the bottom of the dunedin pageread about the ice berg that floated outside of dunedin i posted to the board at the timeit was the size of 4 football stadiumsthe original peice that broke off was the sizeof alaskabit bits broke off as it headed north wardile see if i can find data for youto me this is dam interesting stuff you have your theorys on globall warming but so have iand 4 million of us here and in the pacific islands andsome which will be under water in 10 yearsbut it isnt a subject to get hot under coller about but needs to be discussed weather we believit of notas you and i wont be around toprove weather we are right or wrongbut my grand children will bemartyhttp://search.xtramsn.co.nz/results.aspx?q...&FORM=REDIR Edited July 28, 2007 by martymas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubba Bob Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Thanks Marty, Im going to delve for some info about these incidents. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDoors Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 I saw in the news that NZ was getting hammered and wondered why you hadn't mentioned it (or thought maybe I'd missed or forgotten already). An ice floe the size of Alaska sounds improbable ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martymas Posted July 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 (edited) ile look for the link i sent at the time of the pics and the article because of the southerly flow of the current it only took three months to be visable from nz they were flying tourists out to view this giant which had broken off from the antartic shelfseveral peices broke of on its journeyabout the time when the american footbal final was on the mayor of a southern [who is a witty fellow]city offered it to be built as a football stadium to play that finaland i posted the pic which was doctored to look like a football stadiumi was all for it as ive never seen an american foot ball gameand ime a keen sports followerhe is a hellof a funny guybut to us here in the south pacific global warming is real around some of the pacific islands some of the small island are already under wateraround nauru. i see closer to nz two fijian islands had a rise of water of seventeen inches that isnt much now but what about lateramericans are sheltered from this sort of realitythat is why al gore is campaigningnot only for the usa but the small placeslike in the area i live in in my country inviremental issues are discussed all the time and practicedbut we are in a losing battle against the big industrial countrys who have put money before the invirementit is an issue ime passionate aboutand i support al goreapart from politicsthat is errelivant to the invirementmarty Edited July 28, 2007 by martymas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDoors Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 ... americans are sheltered from this sort of reality ... Not sure why you'd say that, it's a big country and there's a lot of acreage close to or at sea level. Nearly the entire state of Florida, the entire Eastern, Western, Gulf (much of New Orleans has been below sea level for decades) and Alaskan coasts. There are a lot of islands that would be affected (one entire state is nothing BUT islands!). And, as we have a propensity to build our homes near water, I'd bet a VERY large percentage of our population would be affected. HAS been affected (many homes built ON the shore have already slipped into the sea). So ... Why aren't we ALL worried, much less panicking? Lot's of reasons, too many to go into without having to examine the human psyche, of all things. But to address "global climate change" as part of the equation, a lot of the skepticism is the fault of the people advocating for drastic and immediate changes. First, they have made obvious mistakes or exaggerations in their science. SO much has been debunked it makes you wonder: Just how much of it IS true? Second, many of the most ardent advocates are among the worst offenders! Driving a Prius doesn't mean much when you later take your private jet on holiday. Third, the whole issue stinks of money and politics. Who stands to make money from promoting yet another "dire emergency?" Al Gore, for one. Every scientist getting funds to examine the issue, numbering in the thousands. What political agenda might this support? Gee, it just happens to coincide with a particular political slant (which we can't get into, unfortunately). And fourth, it's the ideal argument! If it's hot? Global Climate Change. Cold? Global Climate Change. Wet? Dry? Windy? Still? More clouds? Less clouds? Desertification? Loss of desert? Point to Global Climate Change and it explains ... the weather. Or what we USED to call weather. Now it's a disaster. The weather. A disaster. Mother Nature has been cooped by mankind at last. The weather is OUR fault. Perfect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bubba Bob Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 around some of the pacific islands some of the small island are already under wateraround nauru. i see closer to nzReally? What islands would these be? Wouldn't be the islands being flooding because they're sinking would it? Our media outlets already tried that piece of propoganda on us, but the truth was quickly uncovered. Believe me, if oceans rise the amount some global warming alarmists say it could, I would be underwater. However, you don't see me filling sandbags...BTW, Al Gore is making huge sums of money off of his "campaigning" against global warming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martymas Posted July 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 (edited) read up on an island called white island close to nz the only answer i can give you is you have your opinion and i have minebecuse america is much bigger that nz you will feel the effectslong after we haveand as i said earlier we wont be around to discuss it will weto say who was right or wrongmarty Edited July 30, 2007 by martymas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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