ok, i have been looking online for so long and have not found a solution to my windows installer problem. i tried the page you have mentioned too garmanma, and it didnt work. i took a daring expedition back into the registry editor, and as i was looking at the doug knox msi reg. file still lingering on my computer, i noticed that some of the folders and binaries found in the msi fix were missing in my registry while some werent. perhaps i am missing a couple of regsitry files for msi? ive considered exporting the msi1.reg file to the my registry, but i dont want to screw up the registry AG