parents are to stuborn somtimes i say, ive run adaware sb s&d and ms antispyware and they got most of it. missed a pop up they they keep getting, ms says its some spyware.57 trojan but heres the log Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1 Scan saved at 10:20:29 PM, on 5/8/2005 Platform: Windows XP (WinNT 5.01.2600) MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 (6.00.2600.0000) Running processes: C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\Ati2evxx.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe