hmm.. well i wasn't aware of freenx... and when i configure firestarter thru the gui, there is no options for exceptions, but it was already allowing all of my other daemons to pass... ie:hl2dm, http, ftp.... soo its kinda got me lost, but now i am considering removing nxserver and getting freenx. also i am fairly new to fc4... to uninstall the nxserver, is there a gui i can use, or do i have to do it command line? lol... yeah i usually stuck with debian or suse.. so fc4 is a lil different for me