Vile_DR Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 I am looking to change my home network a little bit. I currently have 3 XP Pro boxes and 1 Fedora Core3 box and 1 Slackware box. I want to add a Mac machine, but am way to far unfamilar with the orientations that mac uses, if that makes sense. I was looking at this one:Apple Store---Dual 2GHz PowerPC G5.I need some insight on mac's. 4 years ago i was using a powerbook G4 which was the x-girlfriends, but haven't touch anything close to mac since...and want to get back with it to be better well rounded on my computers skizzzllles....LOL...Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macmarauder Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 what exactly do you want to know about macs? BTW your link didn't work but i can see from the link title that it's the Dual 2GHz PowerPC G5. message for mac newbies (of which i know Vile_DR is not) the most important thing to think about when picking a mac is figuring out what exactly your intended to use it for it. it really does make a big difference even now. there is a big difference pc hardware and mac depending on the use. each mac set performs very differently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vile_DR Posted May 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 The main detail is the chipset's and managability. I am a little familar with the file structure, meaning directories and such. I know how to attach it to my network, and I am sure i will have to adapt new programs with it, but I want to try and run the Mac as a Server. sometype of file/application server. I don't have any servers at my house and run them in a workgroup setting, but i am starting to offer my neighbor wireless access to my network and want to offer some file management for them and kinda start a descrete business...if you know what i mean. And with that, I want the Apple Mac to kinda be the domain controller ,but i don't know where to begin to set that up and what kinda box to start with.P.S. sry about the link...didn't knw it would time out...here is the link again...hopefully is stays this timeApple Macs. The 2.ghz with standard features, but with the Mac OS X Server version 10.4 “Tigerâ€. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macmarauder Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 (edited) any idea how many people you'll be connecting and what size files you'll dealing with? but other than that, there you go, for what you want that would be the one that i would recommend. that should be plenty of power. there only thing that you might want to consider is a ram upgrade to 1G. here's a really good place to go instead of overpriced apple.Crucialhere's a couple of links for setting it up. macwindows.com/tutorialsetting up accountsi'll have to skim through them myself since i've never networked like that. but i think that you can just give them accounts with remote access and just control their access privileges there. do mean that you want to control which sites they can visit? i you need to describe your descrete business but don't want to do it here feel free to PM me.woops i just noticed that the second link is OS X 10.2 i'll try and find one for at least 10.3 Edited May 5, 2005 by macmarauder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vile_DR Posted May 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 What I am trying to do it just help out a few of my neighbors connecting to the internet and set up a media center for TV shows they might have missed and want recorded, but don't use DVR or VCR...I don't need to control where they go on the internet, because that is their own business, but i will be monitoring with the SonicWALL firewall i purchased and then the installed anti's apps to make sure nothing bugs the system. I wish i could remember where i read the article, but it shows that MAC has a better storage capacity and management for "media" type files. Plus, it would be a bonus to know how the three markets, Windows Linux and Apple differ from each other if I went into a full-techie type position it would be helpful. I work with Win2003 Server at work, and at my technical college i help maintain the Linux RedHat Server, so i have a pretty good understand of the user management in both system, but MAC OS x 10.2 or .3 Server is going to be a little different. I don't really wanna set up remote access because my neighbors will be using wireless NIC's in their machines to connect to my already existing wireless, I may have to upgrade a access point, but the room I will have the Mac Server in will be accessible with ethernet wire, so no wireless on that just yet. It will mainly be a sharing access to the internet type of deal to save them from having to have the cable company come out and charge fees here and there,but the monthly payment. I am only going to charge them about $35 a month for all of this service. The 2 neighbors across the street use DirectTV Satelite so it makes all the more cheaper for them to use me and my connections. The 3 that leave behind me and to the right of my house (I live on a corner lot) dont' want to play $50 for the installation, $100 for the modem, and another $50 a month on top of their cable bill. Plus this house i live in, use to be my parents until they moved on to bigger and better places and left me the deed to the house, so i got lucky there...Hope this helps you out a little bit. Is the user accounting set up similar to Windows or to Linux? I'll be look more into the user creation and adaptation over platforms before i take the final steps, but what is MAC's equavilent to Active Directory? Is there one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macmarauder Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 (edited) ok good. for some reason i thought that it was something more complicated. that's not a bad idea for a little business. you'll be up and running in no time. OS X has Active Directory. account creation is very similar and in some cases even easier. i googled for some info on the XP Active Directory and it also looks similar to the XP one and there's several articles on the net that confirm that they are very similar, even almost modeled after each other. this might be easier than you thought but you know how that goes. i combed the net found several very interesting sites with information that you'll need down the road. official manual to Apple Active Desktop as pdf fileActive Desktop Integration an interesting read and if you scroll all the way down you can watch a streaming movie with interviews with Support Specialisti've got a bunch more for set up later. Edited May 5, 2005 by macmarauder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vile_DR Posted May 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Alright Mac, I am a little confused. I necessarly want to set up a Windows Active Directory, but use the PowerMac as the account management. Does OS X Server contain a management console similar to Active Directory, without having Windows being a server?I am looking to make the purchase's this weekend and getting this moving, but i am kinda stuck, would i need to get a server package with Windows Active directory...? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macmarauder Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 Alright Mac, I am a little confused. I necessarly want to set up a Windows Active Directory, but use the PowerMac as the account management. Does OS X Server contain a management console similar to Active Directory, without having Windows being a server?yes it does.I am looking to make the purchase's this weekend and getting this moving, but i am kinda stuck, would i need to get a server package with Windows Active directory...? i'm not sure exactly what you mean but if your asking if you have to buy a copy of os x server built with a windows active directory. no you don't, the active directory in os x is just a plugin and it will talk to windows. they wrote it with that in mind. it would be nice if everything was like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vile_DR Posted May 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Alright Mac, I went shopping...i haven't purchased everything, but i went to the Apple Store in the area i live in and wanted some upclose hands on experience with the OS X server, and it does have a "active directory" similar to that of windows. And the permissions and everything are very similar. Some major differences, though. I am surfing the web as i type this up, to get the links of what they called it, because i just can't seem to remember....had a busy weekend, bought a engagment ring instead of the computer...lol! But i'll post back and see if we can't work this out together... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macmarauder Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 (edited) cool :cool: all my skills points in life are at your disposal. just let me know what i can do to help and when.besides i'm getting a kick out of researching this stuff and learning more. Edited May 11, 2005 by macmarauder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vile_DR Posted May 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 Sry MAC, i haven't it the APPLE books in awhile...work has been more than overwhelming and unsatisfying. I might have some time this week to work on some research, but wanted to let you know that I should be receiving the box sometime this week with OS X Server. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macmarauder Posted May 16, 2005 Report Share Posted May 16, 2005 i'm not going anywhere, i'll be right here when ever you're ready to do what ever i can to help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vile_DR Posted May 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2005 I posted this in the Chat Forum, but wanted to let you know MAC, that i have some information on integrated User/Group settings. I set up 10 users and was able to all them to connect withsome problems at first with XP, but everything is running smooth...the next step is hooking up the Partial t1 that i am leasing...but i am not sure if i'll be able to post the update information, but i will try. This is kinda my reminder...LOL...I'll post as much as i can, so we can both figure out what i can do to make things a little bit more secure.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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