Thanks guys!!!! and what the heck...why not another? Nerelda, gonna have to get back to you on the font...failing memory and I didn't save the pic as a .psd...lol and njustice, thanks for the constructive critique, I agree the fonts are a little mismatched, kinda rushed that one, as soon as I can remember what the damn font was I might take another crack at it. thanks again all edit: man, wayyyy too many fonts...lol...found it though, it's Vivaldi but stretched out a little...pretty sure it's standard in XP, maybe not though ok, here's the "another crack at it"...must say I'm not as satis